Okay. On the fourth quarter guidance in terms of the revenues, you just mentioned about the main reason for the downside is the volume. How much is the downside because of the discounting, because you are engaged into promotions, offering rebates and early retirements and so forth? So how much is the downside factored by the promotional effect here?

Carl Bass

The promotions are not a big part of it.

Sue Pirri

In fact, the retirement programs, legacy programs are things that we run on a regular basis so that wouldn’t be any different than any other third quarter.

Sunil Daptada - Sentinel Asset Management

Okay. On the quarter just reported, you talked about 2D seats. When you look at the overall new seat growth, it was just about 7% or so. Most of the growth looks like have come from the 3D. Could you comment on what was the 2D seat growth? It looks like it was negative probably. If you can just give color on that.

Sue Pirri

The seat numbers that you see include educational units and the commercial -- there was growth in commercial seats.

Sunil Daptada - Sentinel Asset Management

There was no growth in the commercial seats?

Carl Bass

There was growth.

Sue Pirri

There was growth in commercial seats.

Sunil Daptada - Sentinel Asset Management

Okay. And on the expense side --

David Gennarelli

We have to go to the next question.

Sunil Daptada - Sentinel Asset Management